Talk:Tool - Revision history

>Quest130 at 22:33, 7 December 2014

2014-12-07T22:33:38Z

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	*Our current tools minus hand		*Our current tools minus hand

	What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)		What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25
			December 2013 (MST)
	:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)		:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)
	::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)		::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)
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	:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (MST)		:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (MST)
	::::::Done. I'll see about switching benches over. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 08:37, 7 January 2014 (MST)		::::::Done. I'll see about switching benches over. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 08:37, 7 January 2014 (MST)
			:::::::Ok so if number one is the case then everything is a tool! I think that everything in the Tool bench is a tool,because paint is used to decorate, not farm. [[User:Quest130\|Quest130]] ([[User talk:Quest130\|talk]]) 15:33, 7 December 2014 (MST)

>McClaw: /* What constitutes a tool? */

2014-01-07T15:37:33Z

What constitutes a tool?

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	::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?		::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?
	:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (MST)		:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (MST)
			::::::Done. I'll see about switching benches over. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 08:37, 7 January 2014 (MST)

>Abcboy at 15:00, 7 January 2014

2014-01-07T15:00:58Z

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	:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)		:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)
	::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?		::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?
	:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface?		:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (MST)

>Abcboy at 15:00, 7 January 2014

2014-01-07T15:00:50Z

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	:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)		:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)
	::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?		::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?
			:::::Makes sense. Category:Crafting Surface?

>McClaw: /* What constitutes a tool? */

2014-01-07T14:58:00Z

What constitutes a tool?

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	*Paint		*Paint
	*Paint stripper		*Paint stripper--[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:58, 7 January 2014 (MST)
	*Magnet		*Magnet
	*More...?		*More...?
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	::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)		::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)
	:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)		:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)
			::::Being ''in'' a hand is not the same thing as being ''used.'' One standard could be those items that can show their icon in the space being acted on (which could allow Hand). Hm, what would you say to a category for all the various benches?

>Abcboy at 14:52, 7 January 2014

2014-01-07T14:52:36Z

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	*Paint stripper		*Paint stripper
	*Magnet		*Magnet
			*More...?

	'''2. All items that are effective as weapons'''		'''2. All items that are effective as weapons'''
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	:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)		:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)
	::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)		::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)
			:::The problem with that is every item, when selected, will show up in a blockhead's hand. Even things like chillies and trapdoors. --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 07:52, 7 January 2014 (MST)

>McClaw: /* What constitutes a tool? */

2014-01-07T14:47:03Z

What constitutes a tool?

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	What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)		What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)
	:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)		:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)
	::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? ~~This would add basket but remove chests, torches, lanterns and such. A bucket would be~~ a ~~tool~~, ~~but not a bucket of water~~. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)		::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? I've started a list of proposed removals from the category, although we might find articles that will need to join another to avoid being uncategorized. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)

>McClaw: /* What constitutes a tool? */

2014-01-07T14:43:16Z

What constitutes a tool?

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	What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)		What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)
	:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)		:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)
			::It does seem to need narrowing down. IMO, #1 and #2 are definitely in the definition. Maybe things that are implied to be held by a Blockhead while in use? This would add basket but remove chests, torches, lanterns and such. A bucket would be a tool, but not a bucket of water. --[[User:McClaw\|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw\|talk]]) 07:43, 7 January 2014 (MST)

>Abcboy: /* What constitutes a tool? */

2013-12-26T03:06:17Z

What constitutes a tool?

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	What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)		What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)
			:Also, is a Camera a tool? --[[User:Abcboy\|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy\|talk]]) 20:06, 25 December 2013 (MST)

>Abcboy: /* What constitutes a tool? */ new section

2013-12-26T03:04:19Z

What constitutes a tool?: new section

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== What constitutes a tool? ==

There are several sides to this argument.

'''1. An item that can be used on things in the world'''
:This includes:
*Our current tools
*Paint
*Paint stripper
*Magnet

'''2. All items that are effective as weapons'''
:This includes:
*Our current tools

'''3. All items that can be used for something'''
:This includes:
*[[:Category:Tool|This mess]]

'''4. All items made at the Tool Bench'''
:This includes:
*Our current tools minus hand

What definition should we use? Should we make the Tool category reflect that definition? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:04, 25 December 2013 (MST)